"I thought human beings loved freedom over safety"

How has the role of media changed during the pandemic? What about
the culture of debate? Is freedom of expression threatened? How
neutral does journalism have to be anyway? Mathias Döpfner, CEO of
Axel Springer SE, talks about these questions with the American
journalist Bari Weiss in "WELT talks", a podcast of the German
media brand WELT. Bari Weiss is one of the most outspoken
journalists in the U.S. In 2020, she left the "New York Times" and
described the environment of the paper as illiberal. For WELT, she
writes as a columnist about political culture in the United States
and freedom of opinion. You can listen to the conversation in this
episode of "WELT talks". Production: Serdar Deniz Note: Mathias
Döpfner is CEO of Axel Springer SE, which also owns WELT. Bari
Weiss is a columnist for WELT.